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Les Gove Community Campus
December 11, 2012 - 4:00 PM
Annex Conference Room 2
AGENDA
I.CALL TO ORDER
A.Roll Call
B.Announcements
C.Agenda Modifications
II.CONSENT AGENDA
A. Minutes - November 1, 2012 and November 7, 2012* (Snyder)
III.DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Operations of Auburn Community Center at Les Gove Community Campus*
(Faber)
Committee and staff to continue review and discussion of anticipated maintenance
and operations costs of the proposed Les Gove Community Center with a focus on
fees, charges and pricing.
B. Les Gove Community Campus Public Art (Faber)
Les Gove Community Campus Public Art relative to NDC Community Center value
engineering, to the new Auburn Library parking lot, and to the potential purchase of
sculpture from the Downtown Gallery.
IV.ADJOURNMENT
Agendas and minutes are available to the public at the City Clerk's Office, on the City website
(http://www.auburnwa.gov), and via e-mail. Complete agenda packets are available for review
at the City Clerk's Office.
*Denotes attachments included in the agenda packet.
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AGENDA BILL APPROVAL FORM
Agenda Subject:
Minutes - November 1, 2012 and November 7, 2012
Date:
December 5, 2012
Department:
Planning and Development
Attachments:
Minutes - November 1, 2012
Special Meeting Minutes - 11.07.12
Budget Impact:
$0
Administrative Recommendation:
For information only. See attached minutes.
Background Summary:
Reviewed by Council Committees:
Councilmember:Wagner Staff:Snyder
Meeting Date:December 11, 2012 Item Number:CA.A
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Les Gove Community Campus
November 1, 2012 - 5:00 PM
Annex Conference Room 2
MINUTES
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Rich Wagner called the meeting to order at 5:05 p.m. in Annex
Conference Room 2 located on the second floor of the One Main
Professional Plaza, One East Main Street, Auburn, Washington.
A. Roll Call
Chair Rich Wagner, Vice-Chair Largo Wales and Member Wayne
Osborne. Staff members present were Mayor Pete Lewis; Advisor to
the Mayor Michael Hursh; Parks, Arts and Recreation Director Daryl
Faber; Finance Director Shelley Coleman; Planning and Development
Director Kevin Snyder; Project/Construction Manager Steve Burke,
and Planning Clerk Bobbie Hodgkinson.
Members of the public present were NDC-HEDC Senior Director John
Finke; NDC-HEDC Director Misty Baskett; and Lorig
Associates Project Manager Meredith Messmer.
B. Announcements
There were no announcements.
C. Agenda Modifications
There were no agenda modifications.
II. CONSENT AGENDA
Vice-Chair Wales moved and Councilmember Osborne seconded to
approve the September 26, 2012 minutes as written.
Motion carried unanimously. 3-0
A. Minutes - September 26, 2012 (Snyder)
III. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Auburn Community Center at Les Gove Community Campus
(Snyder/Hursh)
To assist in the discussion, Planning Director Snyder handed out a
copy of the Scope of Work items from the City's contract with NDC-
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HEDC and noted that we are in Pre-development Phase, Stage
1. National Development Council Senior Director, John
Finke, explained that the contract between the City of Auburn and
NDC-HEDC is currently in their New York office to be signed.
Mr. Finke stated the first task in the contract is to bring in a developer
to look at the City's current plans. Lorig has agreed to coordinate
working with a general contractor to assist in this process and working
with NDC would come up with the most efficient cost of building
plans. Then the second step is to recommend to the degree that the
general contractor and the developer can make recommendations of
opportunities to save costs and then look at financing structures.
Mr. Finke stated he prefers a developer driven model where they
engage a developer to oversee and manage the relationship of the
architect and contractor. It brings an efficiency to get them to work
together and to manage costs more efficiently. Mr. Finke further
added that with this model he has done 24 projects in the State of
Washington for $2 Billion Dollars and has yet to have a dollar of cost
overrun or a day late.
Meredith Messmer, Lorig Project Manager, distributed a Draft
Conceptual Schedule for the Auburn Community Center. Ms.
Messmer stated that the first thing would be to assemble the team
and thinks they have narrowed down a contractor to recommend and
is confident that they can get a detailed cost estimate at no cost. Ms.
Messmer indicated she was hoping for confirmation of the
Committee's desire to continue with the same design team. Mr. Finke
commented that it makes sense to work with the current architect for
this stage of the work since we have this architect's set of plans.
Planning Director Snyder, having received Mayor Lewis' approval, will
initiate a conversation with BLRB to see if they would provide a bid on
their cost to complete the design without charging the City. Ms.
Messmer noted that currently they have just a PDF of the drawings
sheets and suggested receipt of an AutoCAD set of plans and a
specifications book would be useful.
Chair Wagner stated we have bid information that can be provided
from the 12 different bids received 2 1/2 years ago when the
Community Center and the Activity Center were bid at the same time
and the Activity Center was chosen; he noted that construction bids
ranged from $6,000,186 to $7,000,008. Director Faber will provide the
bid information to Ms. Baskett.
The Committee discussed various financing and fund raising
opportunities. Mr. Finke described New Market Tax Credits (NMTC)
and stated this would be a very good way of approaching financing.
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He explained NMTC is a program that has been around for 10 years
and is dependent on Congressional action. The U.S. Treasury has
invited entities to submit applications for allocations with the
expectation that Congress will set up the 11th year, but that won't be
known until March. Mr. Finke indicated that King County Housing
Authority and Kitsap Housing Authority have the City of Auburn's
application listed, so the City is in good shape if there is an allocation.
Mr. Finke added that if there is a round, he is very confident that they
will find an allocation; however, to obtain an allocation will require a
project that is ready to go. If the project is redesigned, it would not be
ready to be in the coming round.
Chair Wagner asked if the 63-20 Bonds financing option is off the
table. Misty Baskett explained that for a project this size it would
probably be too expensive. Mr. Finke stated he will explore the
possibility of bank qualified bonds instead of bond issue, something
like a 63-20.
Misty Baskett stated that they would need to know more about the
operating budget, which will become part of the on-going costs.
Director Snyder stated that there are a couple of tasks in the Scope of
Work that didn't get into the Gant Chart because Meredith worked on
this from a construction perspective, but they will be part and parcel.
Director Snyder stated staff will be looking at the operation costs and
at the structure of what a lease agreement would look like. Chair
Wagner requested Ms. Baskett to make a formatting change
(extension lines for each item) to the draft schedule.
In closing, Mr. Finke commented that NDC-HEDC has committed to do
this portion of the project under its mission at no cost. Lorig has also
agreed to conduct work at no cost for a period of time while the
financing and overall approach to the project are figured out. He
further stated that once they get to a decision point where they need to
engage serious value engineering or redesign, NDC will continue until
financing is figured out but will need to determine a way to actually pay
for others to do the needed work. Director Snyder clarified that the
contract has a section that recognizes this situation and agrees that
when that point comes, the City will be provided with additional
information that will detail those costs. He noted that staff has
committed to having the conversation but has not committed to any
execution of funds without more information and City Council approval.
The Committee agreed to conduct a special meeting on Wednesday,
November 7, 2012, at 3:00 p.m. to review and discuss anticipated
maintenance and operations costs for the Community Center.
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IV. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Committee, the
meeting was adjourned at 6:25 p.m.
APPROVED THIS ________ day of ______________, 2012
_____________________________
Rich Wagner, Chair
_____________________________
Bobbie Hodgkinson, Planning Clerk
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Special Les Gove Community
Campus
November 7, 2012 - 3:00 PM
Annex Conference Room 2
MINUTES
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Rich Wagner called the meeting to order at 3:02 p.m. in Annex
Conference Room 2 located on the second floor of the One Main
Professional Plaza, One East Main Street, Auburn, Washington.
A. Roll Call
Chair Rich Wagner, Vice-Chair Largo Wales, and Member Wayne
Osborne. Staff members present were Mayor Pete Lewis; Advisor to
the Mayor Michael Hursh; Parks, Arts and Recreation Director Daryl
Faber; Finance Director Shelley Coleman; Financial Analyst Consuelo
Rogel; Financial Analyst Amy Campbell; Planning and Development
Director Kevin Snyder; Facilities Manager Lisa Moore; and Planning
Secretary Tina Kriss.
B. Announcements
There were no announcements.
C. Agenda Modifications
There were no agenda modifications.
II. CONSENT AGENDA
III. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Auburn Community Center at Les Gove Community Campus
(Snyder/Faber)
The Committee reviewed the Community Center floor plan and
discussed the number of rooms and restrooms that would be
available. Director Faber highlighted the uses for each of the spaces
described in the Preliminary Programs Model for the Community
Center.
In reviewing the Auburn Community Center Projected Operating
Budget, Director Faber stated that the concept is to move full-time staff
from their existing building to the new Community Center, excluding
teen staff. He does not anticipate adding new full-time employees. He
added there will be some part-time increases for the front counter for
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evening hours, private rentals, etc., and a second attendant would be
added to help out with private rentals of 300-400 or more
people. Director Faber stated with increased programming
and rentals, a rental coordinator position may be created which would
perhaps better market the building. On the revenue side, Director
Faber stated the numbers are conservative for classes, programs and
rental rooms.
The Committee discussed charging rent to the Parks and Recreation
Department for use of the Community Center and concurred that a
future discussion should take place with consideration given to a
cost center model.
The Committee reviewed and discussed the Auburn Community
Center Operating Pro-Forma and rental rates for the banquet room. In
connection with pricing philosophy, Director Faber noted that a lot of
the philosophy comes down to is what we decide to give away. If you
take these numbers over 10 years starting at the $135,000 cost to the
City with having some inflators on both ends, it is going to stay fairly
consistent because revenues will increase as will expenses
increase. The real revenue in this building is in the large banquet hall,
especially if it is operated as a business with preferred caterers and
fees. Mayor Lewis stated that similar to how the City
conducts engineering costs and bids, a similar model would work very
well if we do not introduce social engineering to reduce rates for some
groups over others.
The Committee discussed whether the City should allow funded
agencies only an annual one time use of the facility at no cost.
Currently, there are 3 premier agencies that have received some of
the City's highest funding and use Grace Community at no charge;
Valley Cities, Auburn Youth Resources, and the Auburn Food Bank.
Chair Wagner stated he would prefer that all groups would receive the
one time per year subsidy and asked Director Faber to provide a
better picture of all the choices to include the smaller groups. Chair
Wager stated he sees the first few years as a community gain over
income and the need to build expectations and traffic. In response,
Mayor Lewis suggested the Committee consider establishing a 2-year
marketing start-up plan that calls for the reduced costs and in the
marketing plan put into effect the permanent cost model to use for this
facility.
The Committee wanted to know what additional costs would be
incurred besides rent, and staff clarified somewhere between $100
to$150 for janitorial and early arrival of an employee.
The Committee would like to know what potential new programming
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might be added and the associated revenues and costs. Finance
Director Coleman expressed concern that in marketing the Community
Center we may be cannibalizing rentals at other City facilities. Director
Faber will provide a list showing potential expanded programming and
expenses and a matrix showing new programs not currently operating
and other City rental facilities.
The Committee agreed to reschedule the December 28, 2012, Les
Gove Community Campus Committee meeting tentatively to
December 7, 2012 at 3:00 p.m. and continue the discussion on the
proposed Community Center maintenance and operation expenses.
IV. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Committee, the
meeting was adjourned at 3:59 p.m.
APPROVED this ________ day of ________________, 2012.
____________________________
Rich Wagner, Chair
_____________________________
Bobbie Hodgkinson, Planning Clerk
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AGENDA BILL APPROVAL FORM
Agenda Subject:
Operations of Auburn Community Center at Les Gove
Community Campus
Date:
November 30, 2012
Department:
Planning and Development
Attachments:
Auburn Community Center Draft
Programming Plan
Budget Impact:
$0
Administrative Recommendation:
For discussion only.
Background Summary:
Reviewed by Council Committees:
Councilmember:Wagner Staff:Faber
Meeting Date:December 11, 2012 Item Number:DI.A
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Auburn Community Center
DRAFT
Programming Plan
December 2012
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Auburn Community Center
The Auburn Community Center will be approximately 16,750 SF. The Community Center will
include: educational, cultural, social activity, and large non-programmed community meeting
spaces. The facility will feature a spacious and welcoming lobby and a large community
gathering space for up to 350 persons. It will feature a large patio area opening up to the
park. The facility will also provide space for the Parks, Arts & Recreation administrative
offices.
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Community Gathering Area (Approx 7,000 sq feet – 3-bay dividable space)
Rentals:
• Service club events and programs
• Meetings and corporate events
• Conferences and campus wide conferences
• Community events, gatherings, debates, and other special meetings
• Trade Shows and campus wide trade shows
• Wedding Receptions
• Special Events
• Parties and special celebrations
• Birthday Party Packages
• Other Rentals
Programming:
• Programs and events for families with a focus on multi-generational activities
• Drop-in Playground for toddlers and pre-school
• Fitness and Wellness Classes – offered at various times (a.m., noon, p.m.)
• Preschool and Youth Classes
• Various Dance Classes
• Music programs
• Cooking
• Art
• Community Interest
• Community Education Classes
Cultural Opportunities:
• Through a joint effort between Community Services and Parks, Arts & Recreation,
coordinate cultural meetings and events
• Increase recreation and enrichment programs to increase service to culturally diverse
population.
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Programming for Activity Rooms (Approx 1,000 sq feet each):
Preschool & Youth Programs
• Parent Participation
• Arts & Crafts
• Movement & Dance
• Mini Sports
• Music
• Drama
• Fitness
• Wellness
• Cooking
• Computer Classes
• Specialty Workshops
• Camps
• Options for Home Schooled Youth
• Family Programs
Adult Programs
• Fitness
• Wellness
• Cooking
• Gardening/Composting
• Art
• Music
• Dance
• Computer Training
• Community Interest
• Community Community Education Classes
• Programs and events for families with a focus on multi-generational activities
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Core Operating Hours | 8:00 a.m. – 9:00 p.m., Monday through Friday
Rental Hours may vary
Community Center Fee Schedule
Resident Non-
Resident
Auburn
Non-Profit
Other
Non-Profit
Approved
Auburn
Cultural
Groups
(providing
free public
activity)
Auburn
Senior
Activity
Center
(resident)
Veterans
Bldg.
(resident
rate)
Full Banquet
Friday: 5pm-11pm
Saturday: 9am-11pm
(full facility from 12pm-closing)
Sunday: 9am-11pm
$120/hour
$150/hour
$90/hour
$120/hour
$90/hour
$80/hour
N/A
1/3 Banquet
M-F: 8am-9pm
Sat/Sun: 9am-11pm
(available within 30 days or
less)
$50/hour
$65/hour
$38/hour
$50/hour
$38/hour
$20/hour
$30/hour
Activity Rooms
(can be booked up to six
months in advance)
Mon-Thurs: 8am-9pm
Fridays: 5pm-11pm
Saturday: 12pm-11pm
Sunday: 9am-11pm
$25/hour
per room
$40/hour
both
rooms
$30/hour
per room
$45/hour
both
rooms
$20/hour
per room
$35/hour
both
rooms
$25/hour
per room
$40/hour
both
rooms
$20/hour
per room
$35/hour
both
rooms
$15/hour
N/A
Conference Room
$15/hour
$15/hour
$15/hour
$15/hour
$15/hour
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Comparison Rates
Community Center Capacity Rates
Puyallup Pavilion
(8,600 sf)
400 Banquet
558 Conference
$260 per hour/first 6 hours (Fri-Sun)
$150 per add'l hour (Fri-Sun)
$215 per hour/first 4 hours (Mon-Thurs)
$150 per add'l hour (Mon-Thurs)
Federal Way Community Center*
(4,230 sf)
256 Banquet
320 Conference
$375 per hour/first 3 hours (Mon-Sun)
$165 per hour/hours 4-8
$140 per add’l hour
Mercer Island Community Center*
(3,300 sf)
225 Banquet
300 Conference
$120 per hour (Mon-Sun)
Renton Community Center*
(3,000 sf)
230 Banquet
300 Conference
$130 per hour (Fri & Sat)
$85 per hour (Mon-Thurs)
N/A Sun
Tukwilla Community Center*
(3,000 sf)
200 Banquet
324 Conference
$90 per hour (Fri-Sun)
$75 per hour (Mon-Thurs)
Muckleshoot Casino
(5,042 sf)
300 Banquet
450 Conference
$25-38 per person + gratuity
If food and beverage minimums are not met, a
room rental fee may be required
Emerals Downs
(6,600 sf)
400 Banquet $4,000 Banquet/$2,500 Wedding (Sun-Fri)
$5,000 Banquet/$5,000 Wedding (Sat)
$1,200 Trade Show (Mon-Sun)
The food and beverage minimum is the lowest
dollar amount before tax and service charge
that must be spent on food and hosted
beverages to secure the room for an evening
($26-35 per person + tax and gratuity)
*Federal Way, Mercer Island, Renton and Tukwila also charge non-resident rates ranging
from anywhere from 10-25% above the resident rate. The resident rate is the rate listed.
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AGENDA BILL APPROVAL FORM
Agenda Subject:
Les Gove Community Campus Public Art
Date:
December 5, 2012
Department:
Planning and Development
Attachments:
No Attachments Available
Budget Impact:
$0
Administrative Recommendation:
For discussion only.
Background Summary:
Reviewed by Council Committees:
Councilmember:Wagner Staff:Faber
Meeting Date:December 11, 2012 Item Number:DI.B
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